fredag 11. februar 2011

Toppforskere avfeier klimaløgner

Aftenposten>Debatt>Miljø>Toppforskere avfeier klimaløgner

Denne gangen avviser man nok en gang en konkret utfordring til å beskrive hva klimaforskningen er forankret i, slik som dette:


Ikke spesielt utfyllende svar? Dette er en typisk situasjon, og inspirerer til følgende analogi:


Dette er selvsagt en satirisk kommentar til hvordan folk som skeptikerskeptiker opptrer i debatten, noe som er klart for alle. Men hva skjer?


Hvem var det som egentlig bedrev avsporing her? Vi poengterer dette og prøver igjen:


Og slik går dagene.

tirsdag 8. februar 2011

Firefox add-in

Følgende kommentar fra Bishop Hill (også kjent som Andrew Montford) på Watts Up With That trenger ingen lang begrunnelse her.


Problemet med sensur i klimadebatten er omfattende.

onsdag 2. februar 2011

Møt nekterne

Aftenposten>Debatt>Miljø>Møt nekterne

I denne tråden legger alarmistene opp til provokasjon ved å snakke om nekterne, et ord som selvfølgelig er det samme som det engelske ordet deniers, som igjen har sterke overtoner av holocaust. Dette vet alle, det er derfor det blir brukt. Det er settingen, som selvsagt tar som utgangspunkt BBCs dokumentar som skal sette klimaskeptikere i dårligst mulig lys, slik de ser det.

Det hele blir mer og mer surrealistisk. Man blir selvsagt slettet når man viser til noen som tar til motmæle mot dette. Denne gangen hevder Aftenposten at det er brudd på opphavsrett å sitere fra en amerikansk blogg (WattsUpWithThat.com), selv om denne bloggen selv oppfordrer til slik sitering, og praktiserer det selv.

Her er innlegget slik det nå framstår:


Men slik er den post-normale jusen når det dreier seg om post-normal vitenskap.

Så hva var det denne gang som egentlig ble slettet? Jo, det var følgende (linkene og teksten er gjengitt lengre nede):


BBC4s “Meet the Skeptics”  
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/01/bbc4s-meet-the-skeptics/

Meet The Sceptics: another BBC stitch-up 
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100074116/meet-the-sceptics-another-bbc-stitch-up/

The Monckton show 
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/1/31/the-monckton-show.html


Fun and games
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/17/iccc-conference-day-1-chicken-of-the-sea-and-bbc/


"[...]

The interview I had in the evening after the keynote dinner with an independent crew working for BBC on some documentary on “The Skeptics” was unscheduled. They caught me in the grand hall asking if it could do an interview. It started out pleasant enough, but soon deteriorated. They had no organization at all and had no idea where to shoot it. They suggested we shoot the interview in my room, because they wanted to have me set in front of my computer. I thought that was more than a bit forward and suggested the foyer, we got there, setup and then after starting decided they didn’t like the setting. They they suggested that we go to the media room (which they apparently just discovered) so they tore down and went there.

After a couple of false starts the questions started coming. I started to wonder where they were going with this, and when they started asking about what I thought about Dr. Phil Jones “wanting to commit suicide” I realized that it wasn’t going to be factual, but more emotionally spun. I told them flat out that question and what went on in Dr. Jones mind/intent wasn’t something I could or would comment on since I have no information beyond the press report.

These two independent filmakers were just kids, early 20′s and were struggling to come up with questions. They kept trying to get me to use the word “fraud” as applied to Dr. Jones. There were about five attempts to do so in questions, asking essentially the same question over and over again in different ways.

They also asked why climate skeptics are so “angry” and why there are so many nasty comments on forums. I pointed out that they should visit some of the entertainment forums where people talk about celebrities like Britney Spears etc if they wanted to see some real vitriols, and that nasty comments are a part of the blogosphere, particularly when anonymous commenting is involved. Alarmists make a lot of nasty comments. Look up dhoghaza and Joe Romm.

The capper came at the end when they asked me to sign a release form. I was shocked, because standard procedure is to have the interviewee look over and sign the release form before the interview.

Reading it was like reading no other release form I’ve ever seen. It had a clause that said “gives us the right to use your content however we see fit” which concerned me because usually an interview for a documentary is limited to that venue. For all I know they may put me on a political comedy show.

Then there was something I’ve never encountered in all my years of television. An oath of “honesty and factual accuracy” was in the release. While I certainly thought I answered honestly and factually, this clause concerned me. When somebody interviews me on a contentious subject like climate, I’m giving my opinion. Opinions are almost always disputed. I was sure mine would be. To have such a clause connected to one’s opinion is just insane because then someone can hold up anything and say “but scientific consensus says..etc…etc…so Mr. Watts lied and violated his contractual oath in the release form”. It’s not a court of law, it’s an interview. Jeez Louise!

The release was obviously written by amateurs, and I refused to sign it. They then admitted that “it’s being revised to ‘simplify it’ and ‘could we send you a revision?’. I said I’d look at it, gave them my card with email address, told them that I thought they had the process backwards and that I was unhappy with being confronted with flawed legal language after giving a good faith interview, and left.

My impression is that whoever hired these two kids for the BBC is in for a peck of trouble down the road. I doubt the documentary on skeptics will be little more than a slam job. We’ll see if they try to use me even though I have NOT signed the release.

That’s an hour of my life I’ll never get back. "


Sannheten løy sannelig også denne gangen.

tirsdag 1. februar 2011

Comment removed

Richard North med sin EUReferendum blog har en historie om sensur i The Telegraph (UK) som er skremmende lik det vi opplever hos Aftenposten her til lands.

Han skriver i Comment Removed:



 

But at last, the Disqus/Telegraph team has acted. It has deleted all my posts – every single one. All the hundreds posted on all the Booker columns have gone, most of them without trace. Only occasionally do they leave a forlorn "guest" tracer, with the notice "comment removed" (above). In true Soviet style, I have been "disappeared".

Needless to say, the troll's posts are still there and increasing in number by the hour (examples posted).  This is how the newspaper supports its own columnist and his researcher - with that sort of back-up you can really go places. Its idea of support is simply to allow the troll to take over the site. Its activities are untrammelled, its flow of abuse unchecked, spewing out its stuff with an apparent endorsement of the newspaper - and certainly with its permission.


Troll activity on
The Telegraph has been a problem for some time. But with this latest inept move, the newspaper has gone so ludicrously off the rails that it is actually supporting the trolls which are disrupting its own sites, insulting its own people and its own readers.  No wonder it is a failing business.  Any organisation with that much contempt for its own customers deserves to fail.

Dette er et mønster vi kjenner igjen i fra Aftenposten. Riktignok har de neppe "disappeared" noen slik North beskriver, men det er en åpenbar sannhet at innlegg som strider mot avisens dogmatiske linje i klimadebatten og/eller er kritisk mot Aftenposten, med stor sannsynlighet vil bli slettet, noe denne bloggen dokumenterer.

Videre er det ikke noe ukjent fenomen at innlegg forsvinner sporløst og uten kommentar dersom slike innlegg dokumenterer Aftenpostens manglende objektivitet. Dette så vi seinest et eksempel på i innlegget Roger Harrabins karrieremessige selvmord.

Videre er Norths omtale av begrepet trolling karakteristisk for situasjonen også her til lands. Det er en klar trend at trollene i klimadebatten har støtte fra moderatorhold i mediene. Bortimot alle former for usakligheter eller avledninger tillates sålenge det ansees å støtte Aftenpostens linje. Trollene ansees som medienes nyttige idioter.

Som North sier: Enhver organisasjon som forakter sine egne kunder så mye, fortjener å feile foretningsmessig.